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EP 77: Finding Purpose in Your Time and Money, Dr. Jason Dean, Brave TV

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This week on The Millionaire Choice Podcast, Tony talks with Dr. Jason Dean, health and wellness expert. Tony and Dr. Jason discuss being finding purpose in your time and money. Dr. Jason grew up in a broken home. Raised his mother who worked three jobs including a bartender job. She worked hard to keep the family off of welfare, and yet still provided a loving home under all the stress of being a single income household.

About Dr. Jason Dean

Dr. Jason is the founder of Brave TV: Your Source for Health, Freedom and Knowledge. As a teenager, Dr. Jason remembers being embarrassed as a 13 year old using food stamps in the grocery store and hoping his friends didn’t see him. This time in his life left a lasting impression and hope of creating something better for his life and future.

The demands on your time and health are extreme. Numbers to hit, bottom line to keep, travel, family, fun. Are you short on time and feeling not yourself anymore? Increase in weight, tired, irritable? The time for your change is now. Instead of running away from the stress, find ways to maximize your health and time so the stress rolls off you and your statistics and expansion skyrocket.

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Show Transcript

Tony (00:02):

Welcome back to the millionaire choice show. You guys are gonna love it today. And that's gonna be with Dr. Jason Dean of brave TV. We're probably gonna explore some things on the show today that maybe we haven't talked a lot about in the past, but, I'm eager to talk about 'em with you guys. You future millionaires out there because I do believe there are some things that you need to know if you're gonna make and manage wealth. And we'll see where it goes. Jason, welcome to the show, man.

Jason Dean (00:29):

Pleasure, Tony. I appreciate you having me on. And anytime we have an opportunity to educate the public, especially in the time we're living in right now, I consider it an absolute blessing. I appreciate you having me on.

Tony (00:43):

Yeah, thanks a lot. We had a lot of good conversations with the pre-show, which I'm eager to bring out into the main show, but before we get there, man, you growing up, let us know a little bit about how you grew up, what you experienced, because you didn't grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth.

Jason Dean (00:57):

Man? Wouldn't it be easier? No, just kidding. It wouldn't be easier. Cause looking back even when you go, oh man, I wish I grew up in a rich family. I look back and go, man. I'm glad I didn't. Cause I wouldn't be where I am right now, and experience what I did experience. Actually a very tumultuous childhood. My parents divorced very early on, and they went separate ways and it wasn't a good separation. It was very tumultuous. And I ended up being with my mom most of the time. And she ended up being an alcoholic and I don't wanna say a full blown drug addict, but she was dabbling in stuff she shouldn't have been dabbling in. The interesting part was she successfully lived two lives. She lived a bartender three-jobs-life where she was like a crazy lady.

Jason Dean (01:44):

And she also lived a great mom life. Like she actually took care of me. Somebody like in today's day and age, I always say if my mom could do what she did living literally two lives and still raising me and not spanking somehow. I don't know how she pulled off all that. I know anybody can do it. So like none of you parents out there have any excuse, because she pulled the whole thing off, but we never really had extra money. Let me say that. I don't wanna say we were super poor. We did live on welfare two times. My mom was a throwback to old school where she didn't believe you should stay on welfare. So she took the support when she needed it, but then she would worked three jobs to make sure she got off of it.

Jason Dean (02:28):

Cause she didn't wanna live on that, that doll. And she always was home to feed me when I remember correctly. But one of the things that really stands out in my life, and it's kind of a two part thing, was I remember sitting in front of the television young, probably five, six, some somewhere in there. I remember seeing on television, the people like the Donald trumps of the world and the successful celebrities, I guess you would say. but not like the celebrity stuff we see today, the over the edge stuff I'm talking about, just successful people, getting on private jets and living in big buildings in New York city and LA and all this stuff. And I looked at that and I was like, wait, we're struggling. And those people are flying on private jets.

Jason Dean (03:13):

Like it wasn't a selfish ego greed thing for me. I was looking at it going, why can't I do that? Because those people are doing stuff. They're in business. They're changing the world. And along with that, I remember going to the store one day, cause my mom made me go down to pick up some groceries. And I remember she gave me at the time there was, there were no, EBT cards for welfare. It was literally paper food stamps. And I remember going down to the store at like, I don't know, 13, 14 years old when you could still send your kid out on the street and not worry about them. I went down, I remember standing at the cashier getting the total. And I remember literally, like there was little crease and like the perforation, I was tearing off the ones and the fives of the food stamps.

Jason Dean (04:02):

And I remember thinking to myself, looking around going, I hope my friends aren't watching me because it was so, shame and embarrassment. And not that anybody was directly judging me. It was my own conscious looking at myself, going I'm judging myself. And I made a promise to myself going, I'm never going to do this with my own family someday because no one should have to live like this. Not that if somebody's out there, using welfare for the proper thing and still working, I'm not judging anybody. I just didn't want to be that person. And so, back to that; I grew up, went through high school. Didn't love school, went to college. College was a little more fun. And I ended up becoming a doctor my second career that wasn't my first career.

Jason Dean (04:53):

I ended up in the sports world for my first career, but then I met my wife who is all, who is a doctor. And, she gave me some motivation to go back into it. And here I am today, short story, being a doctor have a practice every day, very successful practice. One of the top natural health practices in the world have a television show online; impact like hundreds of thousands of people and am definitely much wealthier that I was back then. And it went from welfare to now I'm that serial entrepreneur going, "Okay. How many streams of revenue can we get in here? How many people can we help? Because there's lots of charities, there's lots of service we can do out there to help more people, especially in the times we're going through right now." So that's kind a snapshot of what it looked like growing up for me, a lot of tumultuous. And by the way, just anybody out there knows my mom is a completely sober, born again, recovered alcoholic, no drugs, everything happily married and living her life as she wants now. So it turned out good. Yeah.

Tony (05:58):

Yeah. So when you say born again, you mean she's Christian?

Jason Dean (06:01):

Yep. Absolutely. She's, a pretty awesome lady. She's coming down in like three weeks to visit. She's gotta hang out. She wants to come down and hang out with her granddaughter.

Tony (06:10):

Well, I mean, so people that have been through stuff like that, there's so much to be grateful for in her life. There's so much more fullness, cause they know where they have been. They've been through some hardships, and I didn't, I think even though growing up my life wasn't a bed of roses, but my parents were pretty awesome. We were just short on cash and mismanaged funds and stuff. But other than that, there wasn't a lot of problems. They were great parents, and if I had another life, I'd be like, "hey, I could roll the dice and take them again." That'd be great.

Jason Dean (06:40):

Absolutely. My parents rock, I mean, they're divorced, obviously they're both remarried happily, and I have half brothers and half sisters. And it's really interesting with it's all a learning experience. That's how life is. And I mean, like I look at life and I'm like, "man, why did I have to go through that?" But then I look at it today going, "okay, I saw that." And now I have a great marriage with my wife. We have a daughter that I learned what not to do, but then when we circle back around to now those same parents that were so tumultuous, my parents come over, we have lunch and dinner. It's such a good world now with them, and I'm just happy that we learned our life lessons, if that makes sense.

Tony (07:22):

Yeah. And I was just thinking about this earlier this week, and I was thinking about my parents, but I was also thinking about my parenting of my own children. Cause I've got a few kids that are probably not happy with a lot of what I'm doing and I'm just like, you know what? At any moment, all you can ask of a parent is to be the best that they can be. If you look at my mom and dad's baggage, you look at my baggage, you're going, all you can expect is go, Hey, my dad did the best he could do with what he had. And both my parents came from really broken homes, very bad mojo stuff, and a lot of alcoholism on both sides of the family.

Tony (08:02):

We won't get into all that. But it was kinda like when I tell some of the stories; people are like, "that really happened?" I'm like, "yeah, that really happened." And not my parents doing it to me, but what happened to my parents, like the fact that they were even sane after some of the stuff that went on is just beyond me. But yeah. So no real problems there with money, but you turned the corner, you became an entrepreneur, and you've got a purpose. I love how you said, when you think about money now and makeing more money, it sounds like there was a purpose hidden in there to go, "Hey, we're having a positive impact on people's lives. Both from our business perspective, but also our financial perspective.

Tony (08:43):

Like why do we make money?" And I love that because that's something I just started teaching last year; we call it purpose driven wealth or purpose of wealth actually. I think for me, growing up, I never thought about being a millionaire, being wealthy. It did happen to meet at 25, but even then from 25 to 40, even probably 45, I wouldn't say that I had a purpose behind the wealth I was making. The only mindset I had was, "Hey, I need to make a better life for my family, a better life for me. And I need to support, my church or support the orphans that are out there." I wouldn't say that it was purpose mindset.

Tony (09:23):

It was just more responsibility minded. Like these are just good things to do. Now, the way I think is, Hey, it's purpose. I have a responsibility to be as wealthy as I can be because I can use that wealth to make the world a better place to help people in need. Last I looked, there are 147 million orphans, worldwide, in third world countries. So there's no shortage of people that need help, even in the U.S.

Jason Dean (09:52):

It's actually nice that you say that because my daughter is eight, and I'll be overtly transparent. I'm not the perfect parent and business is sometimes really fun. I have to peel myself away from a computer or a cell phone because we're doing something. My wife and I are both the same. We both love business, and sometimes my daughter may not be getting our full attention, because mom's on a phone, emailing somebody or texting a business colleague, and I'm doing the same thing. But it's interesting because the messaging and what you said is a purpose. I literally tell my daughter, "you're not playing on the iPad. You're not playing on the phone. Not because, you can't, we're just gonna monitor it. I go, but you see mom and dad on our phones a lot.

Jason Dean (10:36):

We're not playing video games. We're not on social media just to play. We're actually using it to make more money, not to be greedy and to have more stuff, but we're making it because there's more people to help. We help patients every day in a practice. We're helping people get healthier. Everything we're doing as a purpose behind to serve the community, to make people better." Over Christmas holiday, actually, we went to a business conference that had an awards dinner and we took her with us, and she's only eight. Some people are like, why would you take your kid? Because she needs to see what other adults out there are doing. So she has the example. Like we take our daughter everywhere because we're showing her how life works. That night they had somebody who presented that they have an organization that helps, recover, girls and women from, trafficking.

Jason Dean (11:33):

And so in front of my daughter, we went up there and we gave money, large amounts of money to this organization to show her that mom and dad are doing a lot of business a lot of the time, but we're doing it to help save people. We have decent vehicles, but I'm not driving a $150,000 vehicle out there just because we're millionaires. We're comfortable, but the money goes to things that are actually helping humanity. And I think it's so important to portray that message as much as we can to our children as well.

Tony (12:06):

That's good. It's interesting, for me this last year, I transcended from my background where I come from, from this debt free message to this build wealth message. My, my kids grew up very frugal. They don't go out and spend a lot of money. I've got maybe one of the six kids that actually goes and, spends money. I'm like, "you probably shouldn't be spending all your money that way," but you gotta give 'em something else. Right. You can't just say "hey, be frugal." So, I transcended that this last year and started teaching them about how to invest. I need to do more of that, because no one taught me. I had to figure it out. So, now I'm going, "Hey, how do I teach my kids about multiplying their money? How to make, manage, and multiply their money?" And I don't have it figured out. I don't have that figured out yet, but we have turned a corner. I've got a couple of sons that are interested in investing and some daughters that are there, but I've gotta stay after it. And that's a new goal, but now what did you, when you look at your finances and stuff; you've got your entrepreneurial business that you did. When did that start up for you?

Jason Dean (13:09):

For me that started off much later, I went into the corporate world to start. So I went into the marketing world; the sports world. So I mean, I had my like 401ks and so like that, but I didn't have as much attention on it as I did when I met my wife. My wife is an entrepreneur too. I mean she started her own practice before I was a doctor, and it kind of started rubbing off on me and then being colleagues. People ask me all the time, "how do you do what you do?" I'm like, "first of all, I'm not the guru. I'm not at the top of the heap doing this. I have friends who are far more successful than me. And those are the ones that I hang out with. You don't see me going and hanging out with the people that are sitting around talking about 30 years ago and drinking alcohol and everything else.

Jason Dean (13:58):

We have dinner with colleagues who are doing well, but people who are not just doing well, who are giving money to good places to help humanity." And so I dove into that, and then I started the podcast. So brave TV, I actually started that about five years ago, and I started in the health world. So, it was very easy for me to grab people in the health world. Cause everyone knew me from that world. I started talking with people who had vaccine damaged, children, autism, et cetera. It was a really easy start there. And when I did it, I realized people really wanted to get the message out about health challenges, children, et cetera. But then I dove pretty deep in the cryptocurrency when it first came out, but I'm also a gold silver bug.

Jason Dean (14:47):

When I dove into those from a finance standpoint, it just kind of took off and I became a serial entrepreneur through the online world on top of our physical practice. And so, it really is one of those things where I'll be sitting here literally at this desk and I have a whiteboard over there and I'll come up with an idea and go, "okay, we can definitely do that in the digital world. Is there a way we do it in the physical world? Should it say digital?" And I'll have a list of ideas on the side that I'm just like, "okay, I don't have time to do it right now, but it's over there. And when I get some, energy over here or there, or some units of attention, I'll throw it to the end." Because to me it's fun.

Jason Dean (15:33):

Whenever you come up with an idea, you go, "wow, that's an idea whether it's been done before or not. That's my idea that popped into my mind, wonder what I could do with that and wonder how I could help more people, make more revenue, et cetera." And so I'm a little weird like that at, and the fact that I usually carry a whiteboard around with me or a notebook and I'll just start writing stuff down, go by a domain name and go, okay, how can we turn this into something? And that's how my serial entrepreneur got started, but that's how it's also going.

Tony (16:05):

It's interesting how you describe that because I would say, financially, when you're teaching you future millionaires that are listening here, what you're hearing is Dr. Jason talk about how he evolved as an entrepreneur. So when he started as an entrepreneur, he knew just enough to get started and get moving. And then over time he evolved into another level of entrepreneur. Your finances are much the same way. So in my case, I knew I was broke. I knew I didn't wanna be broke. That's the first step and then I'm going, "okay, how can I not be broke?" And then as you go on your financial journey, we call that the millionaire journey. That's where you start to learn more and evolve more. Dr. Jason just mentioned cryptocurrency. I mean, cryptocurrency, it's taking a little bit of a bath right now.

Tony (16:51):

I'd like it to be about 80,000. I'd rather see Bitcoin at 80 grand, Ethereum around 8,000 right now. But it's not. It's all about learning and getting moving in the right direction. And I think that's- if I did anything right at age 25- that was what I did. I just got started and got moving in the right direction. And that allowed me the opportunity to evolve. It allowed me to learn more about debt, more about real estate investing, because I didn't know all those things at the beginning. So it can look like a huge mountain when you go, "Hey, I could be outta debt, have my finances in order, and be wealthy." That sounds like a huge mountain to climb. But when you realize all you gotta do is start walking up the path. There's all these other people that have created that path for you. You just gotta start walking the path.

Jason Dean (17:37):

Tony, everyone wants to buy the secret. Everyone wants to buy, "what did you do? What was the secret? How'd you get there?" You wanna know the secret start? Start. That's the secret. There, there is no secret. It's a Friday afternoon while we're doing this and I'll probably head back to the office to make sure there's nothing else there I need to get handled. We'll come home. We're not a partying family. We don't drink, we don't smoke. So we'll hang out. We might watch a family movie together and relax, have some dinner. Tomorrow- we were just on vacation, away for a little bit- we might, we'll go do something. Cause my wife likes to go do something in nature and things like that or the beach or whatever. The rest of the time, honestly, I'm watching online seminars, I'm reading a book, I'm doing something here or there.

Jason Dean (18:24):

We don't really watch TV anymore just based on what's going on in the world. You start and then you don't stop. You just keep learning and learning and learning and I've become one of those people. If someone goes home and watches television for four hours a night, I'm like, "oh my gosh, that's four hours of seminar. Time of book, time of, webinar time." Six hours of my world is a massive chunk of time that I could learn massive amounts of material. Does that make sense?

Tony (18:55):

Oh yeah. It's interesting. I was just writing an article. I'm gonna release this week about getting ready for 2022; planning. That's one of the big things that people don't take account for is like, "Hey, am I not moving forward? Why is my life stuck? Where am I not going?" A lot of it comes down to how you use your time. I call them "time sucks." Things that suck our time away from us, for me in the past, video games were a big one for me. It would not surprise me if I logged 20,000 hours in my lifetime on video games.

Tony (19:31):

I was an addict. I was a video game addict, and still fortunately, somehow I found enough time to actually read books, study, learn things and still be successful. But I always regret that usage of time which wasted my time because I'm like how much more successful could I have been if I had redeemed that 20,000 hours of time. Now maybe I turn it in and I create a financial game or something like that. And then I can take all that time and go. "I redeemed it, I redeemed it because I created something from it, from that experience; I created." But that, and then entertainment used to be big. I still remember when I discovered Netflix, I would get two or three DVDs in one night. Say that they come in on a Monday.

Tony (20:13):

I would binge watch 'em all that night, and then I would stick 'em back in the mail the next day. Well, my mindset was, "Hey, I'm paying for Netflix. I need to get the maximum value out of this subscription. And so I literally would flip the DVDs two and a half times a week and be watching, three DVDs or so, from Netflix, which is a lot of time and that's for entertainment. Those were probably two of my biggest time wasters, other people are watching, sports or golf or something like that. The main thing is you have gotta realize that those things that you put time into those kinds of things, they don't return anything back to you. You're sending it out and it's just gone.

Tony (20:54):

Your time is gone. There's no value in that really, or very little value for your life. Now if you're doing family time around a movie, that's a little bit different. You have a memory, but what you really need to be doing- just like you do with your money- you wanna put your money out there into things that returns value back to you. You wanna put your time out there that returns back to you. And I think that for 2022, that's the big theme I'm trying to push for people is to go, "Hey, how are you using your time? What are you wasting on? What can you redeem? I don't know if you run into this with your family, Jason. But it's when I try to tell my kids they need to do something. They go, "I don't have time to do that." My wife does that too. And I'm like, "look, you hear me say this all the time. You'll always find time to do what you want to do."

Jason Dean (21:38):

There's always time. There is.

Tony (21:42):

"You just don't want to do that thing."

Jason Dean (21:43):

There's a 24 hour clock game you can play. I don't think anybody invented it, but I've seen it done by somebody else. So then I just thought, "okay, lemme my twist on it," Take a 24 hour clock, multiply that thing time seven, see how many hours you have in the week, but then sit down and write down every single thing that you do every single day and including sleep, including work. I include all of it. Even put down stuff that you're like, "Hey, I'd like to go to the gym. I'm not right now, but that'll take an hour a day or an hour, every three," and write down as much as you can down to like how much screen time you have or cell phone time or whatever, and write it all out and find out how much time you have. Most people are like, "wow. When I put everything down, there's gonna be no time on the clock. That's why I can't get anything done." I did this like three years ago when I was busy. I'm busier now, but I was really busy then. I wrote everything down, and when I was done at the end of the week, I had 68 hours of downtime.

Jason Dean (22:46):

That was still running like two or three businesses then. That includes, that includes sleep. People are like, "oh, you didn't put your sleep in." No, no. That included sleep. That included time with my wife, that included time with my daughter separately, it was all in there. And I go, it's never the time because I had a whole full-time job left of time that I was wasting. I don't even know what it was. And so when people say that, I'm like, "you need to do the clock exercise."

Tony (23:17):

I think that is so true. That's what I was saying, "audit." If you're gonna get ready for 2022; first start by auditing your 2021. What and where did you put your time? You're saying audit a week. That's a little bit easier. For me, I'm looking at big blocks of time. I gave up video games last year and I stayed true to that. I've been in and outta games for years. I started playing when I was outta college, 22, 23 years old. They just kind of floated in and outta my life. But lots of time wasted there, a lot of marital trouble over that too. And, so if you wanna fix your marriage and fix your time, stop playing video games.

Jason Dean (23:50):

Stop playing video games and watching TV.

Tony (23:54):

It's just priorities. In the pre-show we were talking about things and one of the things you mentioned was, if you wanna a better life, it all starts with a mindset. Whether that's your health, your money, your time, whatever; it starts with your mindset. I think that's a big thing we're talking about here around time is, "what's your time mindset?" Is it, "I can't, I don't have enough time to get that done." Is it going, "Hey, let's be honest with ourselves. Am I really put my time into things that are worthwhile for me, in the future that I can build on? That's an interesting thing about success, right? Success is not one big decision you make. Usually it's a bunch of small decisions that kind of stacked up to create momentum and they take you to newer heights. A lot of people who are kind of like stuck call it the hamster wheel or the gerbil wheel -whatever you wanna call it- of life; they're going nowhere. They're just running in circles. It's because they're not steadily stacking up those good decisions. One on top of each other to take their life in a new and better place.

Jason Dean (24:54):

A hundred percent. It's actually funny you bring that up because, I think it was last week. I did a, like a three day, big energy challenge for some, some people online. I tell everybody this, and I always apologize ahead of time to the persons doing the interview with me. So Tony, I apologize. It does not matter if you're in money. It does not matter if you're in healthcare like I am. It doesn't matter if you're in business or whatever other industry you want. When someone's trying to learn something, the skills of learning like healthcare; I have healthcare down. I have healthcare down. It doesn't mean I'm perfect. It just means I have it down. I'm just training myself to be better at it. So if you're in an area where you're like, "I am really struggling in this area," you're not struggling physically in an area you're struggling mentally in an area.

Jason Dean (25:41):

And what I mean mentally; it doesn't mean you have a mental health challenge. It just means that you have to get around some of your own stuff to actually get on the path to do that. You don't know something about money. Then go learn something about money. The knowledge is all there. Nothing's stopping you from getting to the knowledge except for yourself. When I did this big energy challenge, people are like, "okay, what foods do I eat? What supplements do I take? What do I do? How do I do it this way?" And I'm like, "okay, this is how we start. Yes, I can teach you about food. I do that every day. I can teach you about supplementation. I can do that every day. And yes, there are the physical components to getting yourself more energy.

Jason Dean (26:17):

However, let's actually talk about the stuff you're not getting around. A lot of you don't have a successful marriage at home because you're not talking to your spouse. Many of you are not on purpose. You don't have something you're doing every day. A lot of you, people have very negative people around you that you're communicating with day in and day out. So I dare you just to work on those things, and see how much energy you get back." I let people do that for three days. I give 'em homework. They come back over the weekend and people are giving me paragraph long, like homework assignments that I didn't even ask for like literally going, "oh my gosh, I have so much energy. And I didn't even change the physical or the food part yet. It was just because I actually sat down out and went, oh my gosh, I do have a purpose."

Jason Dean (27:05):

And I haven't even been working on my purpose or I do have a career that I haven't been working on, or I wanted to learn a trade or it's, there's so much mindset involved. And so many people hold themselves back. And so people ask me, "how did you do, or how do you get to where you are right now? Or how does Tony get to where he is?" You have to have a mindset that you believe in yourself. I think one of the biggest, unfortunately, and I guess the word for lack of better word is like "sickness." It's not really a sickness, but one, one of the biggest things that holds America back is just the person themselves, not believing in themselves. And I see that every day.

Tony (27:45):

Oh yeah. I've talked to a few people. I won't mention any names, but people that are pretty close to me and, I usually don't use profanity on the show. But I am gonna say this because it just shocked me to somebody who's dear and close to me and, adult and I found, they always thought themselves as a piece of poo. I'll tame it down a little bit here. And that is so foreign to me that you would think of yourself that way. Like, I don't even understand that. I'm not wired that way. I can't bridge that gap, but there are some people who just have this negative view of themselves and that kind of paralyzes them on being able to move forward or to achieve success.

Tony (28:33):

Those are what I would call ungodly beliefs. The negative things you think about yourself are mostly not true. So, we call those ungodly beliefs. You first gotta get that kinda trash outta your life and go, "Hey, that's not true. That's not who I am now. Did I make some mistakes? Yes. But that doesn't define who I am in the future. It doesn't define who I am now. It just means I made some mistakes. Let's patch 'em up. Let's move on." I worked for a wonderful guy, very strong-willed guy. And it was iteresting to watch him and watch people like him, this "high-D", alpha type personalities, right. Where people go, "oh man, they're just built for success." No, you know what they are is when they make a mistake, they're like, "eh, I made a mistake."

Tony (29:21):

And then they, they just move on. It's a pass thing for them. They don't dwell on it a whole lot. It's just like, "Hey, no big deal. I made a mistake," and they know that they'll make, nine successful things they'll do, but they'll do one mistake. So you don't need to get paralyzed by the mistakes you make. Don't get paralyzed by, a negative mindset about yourself, but retool that now this person that I, I care about a lot, I'm working through that with them, like, "Hey, let's reinforce, reinforce." And some of that I think comes from, your upbringing. If you grow up in home where your parents were abusive, probably your parents were abused mentally at some level somehow. So they're just naturally gonna pass that on to you. You're gonna pick that up, but don't let that be an excuse to act as a barrier, to keep you from moving in a positive direction. Cause there's plenty of people who have dealt with that, overcome it, and reached high levels of success. So it doesn't mean it can't be done. It just means you have to do it. You have to get through it. But does that answer your question?

Jason Dean (30:21):

It's a hundred percent; absolutely. You said somebody who fails and it's like, being successful, people ask, "oh, it just must have been easy." You're like, "no, it has not been easy. It's been fun. It's definitely a journey. There's so many mistakes that you can like point out and laugh at 'em now and be like, oh yeah, I did that over, over there. Or I did this over here, and I do it sometimes with my staff. I mean my physical staff in the physical location. And I jokingly tell people I'm going to mess up today. And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, I make mistakes. Sometimes I do it on purpose. They're like, "what?" I'm like, "how are you ever gonna learn about yourself, your abilities, your potential, or even how something works,

Jason Dean (31:20):

if you don't hold a trigger on something and go for it?" Like we had a product, I was shipping and we overdid it a little bit. I knew we didn't have it in. My wife's like, "you should probably pull back the rains." I'm like, "no, keep going." And she's like, "what do you mean? Keep going? We don't even have it." I go, "keep going." And she goes, "why?" I go, "because I can learn really fast. Because this will happen again down the road when we expand into a bigger level. So this is gonna make me go into action and I'm gonna get this done, but let it keep going. Cause you never turn off something that's successful. I would rather go behind the scenes call and talk to several more people I've never met before and learned something from them about this industry and something that I didn't know. And I made a mistake on I'll fix and handle the customer service and I'll even take the blame," but don't allow yourself not to learn something because of a, but also turn off the successful action, if that makes sense.

Tony (32:24):

I think Josh, I'm a fan of Josh James, he founded Omniture. His company got bought up by Adobe and then he's got another company. Now I forget what it is, but it's in the analytics space, business analytics. But, he talked about those kinds of things. While some people are pidling around making decisions, he's gonna try something, test it, prove it outright, and then move on to the next one. And so his evolution of what he's doing is gonna happen at a faster rate. And he'll build success upon success. Sometimes he'll make mistakes, but it's about testing trial and error and building on top of that. I think those are all good pieces of advice. Let's turn a corner real quick. Before the show we were talking about a book, I just promoted this book, this week actually on social media, and I have not read it. Confession; I haven't read it. I've been stuck on page 100 for a while. I think the thing is like 700 pages. Do you know how long it is? Jason?

Jason Dean (33:21):

I'm looking at a bookshelf. It's a big one. I wanna say it's like 700. It's big. I haven't looked at it in a little while, but it's a big one.

Tony (33:28):

I got stuck in the book and I'm like, "ah, I've gotta switch. I gotta, I'm not moving fast enough through books. I gotta do audios." So I'm moving into audio books. I bought an audio book on it this week and I just listened to it while I was working out morning, and I think I'm already caught back up to where I I've read. It's like, that's all it took; buy an audio book up on the treadmill and all of a sudden you're, partially through a book, but the interesting thing, and this is something; I wanna teach people, when it comes to finances. If you're playing in a financial system, you have to understand there's a system. There is a system. It is designed.

Tony (34:02):

You have different systems throughout history that exist in different cultures. A lot of them look similar. We were on a gold standard system. We're no longer on a gold standard system, a gold standard system constricts the money supply; creates stability. We're on, a different money system. Now it's more of a debt money system. It creates a lot of, elasticity within the financial system, but it also creates inflation at a higher rate. It creates, instability of finances, but Jason has read this book, and I just wanted to encourage all you guys, if you're gonna make money and build wealth, you better understand the system you're in. Because every 75 on average, paper currency, implodes, and, that's throughout history, doesn't matter if it's a Chinese dollar equivalency or a Russian ruble or a Mexican peso, you name it, Lima, wherever that is, all these different forms of money go up in smoke.

Tony (35:01):

I Zimbabwe had some currency, it was seeing 10,000% inflation a year or something ridiculous. So you can't even buy it. Like some of these denominations got like million dollars printed on the bills because the, the inflation rates are so high. And, and we're seeing that right in the U.S. We're seeing that right now. You're seeing, they're saying it's a 7% annual inflation rate in 2021. That's a bunch of junk. It's way higher than that. Gas is up 50%. Food's up, you name it. It's all up. Two-by-fours used to be a dollar 98. Now, they're sitting about six bucks right now. So they went up to $9. Now they're down to $6.

Tony (35:38):

And you're going, "why is all that happening?" So, well there's a system, there's a system that's in place. So Jason, you read this thing, right? By G. Edward Griffin, I encourage everybody listening to the show to pick his book up. And if-

Tony (35:51):

You're gonna build wealth,

Tony (35:52):

You better understand how the system works. It's part of it. "The Creature from Jekyll Island." Yeah. I forgot to say the name of the book. G. Edward Griffin, "The Creature from Jekyll Island."

Jason Dean (36:05):

I actually feel like it should be a book that every student in school reads, but they wouldn't because they're not gonna teach something that obviously is useful. That's by slam it's my quick slam on the public education system.

Tony (36:20):

The dumbing down of America.

Jason Dean (36:22):

I'll have to come back and do this because with time, it's so interesting. Fundamentally, I do not personally believe that the average American, and this is no disrespect to the average American, understands what money even means or what money is. It's simply a means of exchange. Money has no value unless we put value on it. The only reason the, and I have to catch myself. I can't even say the dollar because it's not the dollar. It's the federal reserve note. Like folks, if you're listening to this and you've never heard this before, or it's new to you, like take out like 1, 5, 10, 20, a hundred, it doesn't matter. Take it out. And what does it say at the top of the bill?

Jason Dean (37:13):

It does not say a dollar. It does not say any type of dollar. It says "federal reserve note," and this book teaches all about it. Teaches all about who started it. I urge you just to go read it cause you really need to understand it. And you can't compress it in a couple minutes, but it's really not your money. It's a corporation. And you would think that the federal reserve means it's federal. It has nothing to do with the fed. It has nothing to do with the federal government at all. They took the money away from the treasury because our founders were so genius that they said that the only real money, which is God's money is gold and silver. Hence the constitution it's right in there. Just most people haven't read it. And so these bankers who like to do naughty things like start wars, they created a federal reserve note, and they lend it to the treasury for more than it's actually worth.

Jason Dean (38:04):

This is, this is probably the simplest way to sum it up. If you create a dollar or a federal reserve note, let's say that federal reserve note. We create a federal reserve note, and it's lent to you. So, the bank gives you a dollar for a business venture. I know it's not really a dollar like, but they're lending you a dollar and they say to you, "we're gonna charge you. Let's say 10% interest on that." First of all, user is illegal. Go read it in the Bible. okay. That's a whole other rabbit hole. If they do that, explain to me how the bank can lend out a dollar, but they can charge you interest because where would the interest come from? You can't create something out of thin air that interest was created outta thin air. Cause they only lend you $1.

Jason Dean (39:01):

How do you get extra on top of the dollar? You can't because that's a debt based system. And for anybody who's like, "whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." Go read the book, go learn about it. But this is the problem with our financial system. And I urge everyone; learn from Tony, learn from others out there who are letting you know there's a problem right now. You can't keep printing more dollars. And it doesn't matter if it's a dollar, a federal reserve note. It doesn't matter if it's a paper clip or a rock. It's just of a means of exchange. The problem is America is suffering right now because a long time ago these bankers stole our currency. They took us off a gold standard. And now this is why you have not, you don't have 7% interest.

Jason Dean (39:51):

Let's be honest. Inflation is so outrageous right now. I remember going to the coffee shop with my grandfather, and he would spend like 50 cents on a cup of coffee and you'd get free refills. And he'd have two cups or three cups of coffee talking to his friends and I'd sit next to him having some hot chocolate. You even go to a diner today, not even talking about Starbucks at $5 a cup, go to a diner. You're gonna spend at least $2 for a cup of coffee. The coffee hasn't changed. It's actually gotten worse by the way. It's not even good coffee anymore. Right? The coffee hasn't changed. The lumber hasn't changed. We didn't run outta wood. There's not, there's not less trees out there, but yet it's higher cost. How? It's all the money.

Tony (40:43):

Well, I was talking to my daughter in the car the other day, because I'm like, "I had to learn all this stuff on my own." So, as a father, I'm going, "okay, how do I teach my kids? Like what do I say to my kids? I got all this knowledge; 51 years of knowledge now." Well actually 26 on money because that's when I started studying money. So I don't have 51 years experience with that. 51 life experience years. But I'm like, I'm sitting him in the car with my 12 year old and I'm starting to teach these principles. But one, that's kind of very obvious. And I think this is the key. You talked about it, and this blows your mind even more. I used the term on this show I was on the other day, we live in a "slave based system," and they were very offended by that. And they're like, explain what you're saying. At the time that's the first time anybody ever asked me, cause I just started talking about this. I gave them an explanation. It was kinda like, not quite as clear, but here's the deal;

Tony (41:37):

When you work, you're giving, like you said, it's a medium of exchange, right? Like a means of exchange. Money is really a way to transfer your time and life into a collectable commodity. When you really get down to it at its core. So you've got all these people, this workforce that goes out and works, whether it's at Ford Tesla, general motors, taco bell, my son's working at taco bell. He goes out and works. He's given a certain amount of, medium of exchange for his time. So he spends eight hours there. He gets a medium exchange. And then where does that medium of exchange go? Well, a big chunk of it goes into taxes, which then goes into a lot of stuff we don't even agree with. Then you've got, a portion of it.

Tony (42:26):

Even if you're, self-employed, you're not working for somebody else, you're working for yourself, you gotta pay a self-employment tax. Like it's just so ridiculous. So there's a collection mechanism, over there. And then you have, like you said, a banking system that's built to collect it. Some of my clients have as high as 33% interest on their credit cards. People are talking about low interest rates on houses, 2%. But what about all the people that are stuck in 17, 18, 20, 25, 30% interest on credit cards. So, that's another piece of the collection system. So you have the tax collection system, you have the debt usury collection system. And then you have, the business unit collection system, which we won't get into all that; the corporate collection system. Oh, and this is a great one.

Tony (43:14):

This is a big one people ignore. We just talked about earlier; entertainment. One of the biggest collection systems of all time. So all of these systems are designed to harvest your time. Like all of them, like if you're looking at a television, you're playing on Facebook, you're doing whatever you're doing digitally. You're spending time to do it. And they are turning that into currency and then collecting it. It really gets mind boggling. Once you start seeing how the system is set up and how it all works, but that's beyond the scope of what we have time to talk about today. But, read the book. We all go through it together. It's very, very enlightening. If you're gonna make money, build wealth, support your family and get ahead, you owe it to yourself to understand the system and the better you understand the system, the more successful you're gonna be. That's the wisdom I have. How are people gonna find you Jason, and find out about the nutritional stuff? We didn't even touch on the nutrition and the health stuff that you do.

Jason Dean (44:16):

I mean the best way to do it is, if you're interested in a health standpoint, I won't go into it now, but you can be educated. I do a challenge, it's called the "full moon protocol." I know it sounds weird. You can just go get educated. There's a video on there. You can check it all out. But the best way to get me is, if you go to, is my website. I'm on telegram and rumble. I've been banned from Facebook and all the other places, because I talk a little too much truth. And so I got myself thrown off of there, but go to I actually live stream a daily show from about 12 to two, five days a week. And so you can go on there. I do warn people up front.

Jason Dean (44:57):

I am a red pill mindset. I do a little conspiracy, but often at the end of the day, it's all about serving and helping our fellow man, fellow American, fellow country member, fellow, even other countries too, because it's chaos in Australia and everywhere else. So we just give you some blunt truth, and we teach you about money, real healthcare, knowledge, gaining knowledge, understanding things. And so go to If you go there, you'll find all the places I am on social media, and we'll just educate you best as possible. And we have a fun family group over there who everyone looks out for each other, helping each other, make it through this crazy world today and we're happy to do it.

Tony (45:37):

I appreciate having you on the show. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and explaining a little bit more on "The Creature from Jekyll Island" to us.

Jason Dean (45:45):

I appreciate having me, Tony. Thank you.


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